Posted: 2017-12-07 07:34
I don 8767 t know that either liberals or conservatives are all that tolerant of dissenting views. I think it ends up varying a lot depending on who 8767 s defined as being in those groups and what ideas are being discussed. I don 8767 t necessarily think that tolerance of dissenting views is always a virtue, either. In a government, sure. In an institution? It sort of depends. In an individual? Tolerance of all views doesn 8767 t even seem feasible, let alone wise.
"We’re definitely a little different from the men’s rights movement in the sense that we don’t seek to ''fix'' society or our government," he said. "In fact, a lot of us feel that things are beyond fixing. Sure it’d be nice if reproductive rights were equal between women and men, but nobody’s holding their breath about it. A majority of our goals are personal and interpersonal improvement. Not really something to write your congressperson for."
Same thing happened to me. When I saw someone on facebook talk about how we need feminism because society teaches don t get rather than don t , I ended up having a rather unsavoury disagreement with them. End result is I lost a friend because they simply did not want to listen. They decided my confession as to what happened in my past was a tirade and they didn t deserve it. Last message I sent before they blocked me was So, did I deserve what she did to me?
"There''s nothing controversial to this statement," he said. "And, speaking personally, I agree with it. I think there are many Red Pill members who see it that way. But there are a lot of voices decrying this sentiment in favor of an attitude of. degradation, I guess. It seems like The Red Pill is generally taking the idea of alpha from the pickup artist perspective and running in an extreme direction with it. Like any group or belief system, there''s a lot of value to be found with the reasonable stuff. But also like any other group, The Red Pill has some extremists who are fervent in their beliefs and incredibly vocal. Oh, and batshit crazy. I think that''s likely the reason The Red Pill has gotten the reputation of being misogynistic. "
"My definition of an alpha is someone who wants to become the best version of themselves so that they can best serve the world. Obviously, there''s nothing wrong with motivating guys to become better men, but The Red Pill seems to be doing so in an aggressive and adversarial sort of way. From an outside perspective, it seems like they''re a bit too vocal about categorizing themselves as alphas and others as betas. there doesn''t seem to be an attitude of wanting to bring other people into the fold. It seems divisive rather than inclusive."
I am kind of curious about the demographics for I guess we 8767 ll call them socially conservative atheists. Most of the women I know who voted Trump are heavily involved in the Church (and single men in religion are apparently rarer and rarer), and aren 8767 t really that interested in dating outside of their religion, even if the guy shares their political leanings, and are looking more for traditional gender roles where the woman is mostly a SAHM/part-time.
Welcome to The Red Pill, an Internet community on Reddit founded on the general belief that women have it better than men. Red Pill is not a dating advice bulletin, but rather a forum for people — men, mostly — exploring an ideology that revolves almost exclusively around gender. Those who "swallow the pill" maintain that it''s men not women, who have been socially disenfranchised. Feminism is considered a damaging ideology and Red Pillers are quick to cite examples that bolster their points, some going so far as to argue that society is outright anti-male. Red Pill followers have their own politics, language, and culture. And they''re growing: Eight months ago, Red Pill had only 655 followers. Today, it has more than 65,555.
I think the fantasy is pretty deeply rooted in Mad Max and Walking Dead and all the other survival fantasies where much of the threat comes from fellow survivors and they get to live out battle fantasies. In reality, I suspect knowledge of gathering food, small scale agriculture, and hunting small game would be more important, if a lot less exciting. (I was going to write, 8775 That doesn 8767 t exactly make for a good movie or video game, though, 8776 but then realized I would totally watch that movie or play that game.)
Again: if you don 8767 t have strong beliefs, it 8767 s easy to say 8775 both 8776 or 8775 neither 8776 and assume your kid will sort it out in time. However, for many people, sharing your faith with your children is incredibly important and if you disagree on how to raise them, this becomes a ticking timebomb in your happiness. So, for that matter, is the issue of community. Your snugglebunny may be cool with your being a proud hellbound heathen but what about their parents? Their friends? Their community? Again: it 8767 s easy to say 8775 fuck 8767 em if they can 8767 t take a joke 8776 until you 8767 re the one dealing with the constant disapproval of literally everyone important in your life.
It 8767 s hard to imagine why someone who thinks like that is single. Once you 8767 ve reached the point where you 8767 re treating somebody 8767 s sexuality or, for that matter, progressive beliefs as something being done at you instead of as part of who they are, you 8767 ve begun the process of assuring that you will be single for a very long time. This sort of attitude is going to eke out into everything they do or say.
Not to mention, even IF there was a clear divide with 8775 men hunt and women gather 8776 , that totally disregards how much damn work gathering is. Since they 8767 re having the men hunt mammoths, let 8767 s presume this was during the ice age. There are going to be damn few berries to pick in the first place depending on the season and location. If, by sheer chance, your particular cave is right by a huge thicket of berry bushes, if you 8767 ve got more than a couple people in your group, they 8767 re going to be picked clean pretty damn quick. This means you need to range farther and farther out, braving other predators that would just love to dine on a haunch of hominid. This means the women would be working just as hard as the men and were probably in just as much (if not more) danger doing so.
Because like you said, these guys usually don 8767 t know how to hunt, or lay a game trap, or skin an animal but like will suddenly magically find the knowledge the moment society collapses. Not that they won 8767 t be whining about how they don 8767 t wanna snap a bunny 8767 s neck or won 8767 t be able to, the rabbit will claw his face up and then bounce away. that 8767 s more likely.
Huh You know, I realized, after reading through this entire conversation about the differing types of conservatives that Holy hell there are so many differing types of conservatives! And I only say that because there are so many damn think pieces about how liberals can 8767 t get their shit together enough to vote the same way because of how disparate the liberal voting bloc is, but See also the conservative voting bloc??? (And really, if we were smart, we wouldn 8767 t have a 7 party system at all, but that 8767 s another rant for another day).
I was just saying at work that it 8767 s mad how nearly every post-apocalyptic remnant-of-humanity-surviving movie/TV show features white North Americans/Europeans. We are the most coddled people on planet Earth and we really believe we 8767 re going to manage without shops? No! People who are already used to hauling water and following the herds will migrate up here after we 8767 ve all starved to death.
I wish that were enough, but it simply isn t. If it were, wouldn t be so prevalent, and apologists wouldn t be so common, and people who cover up for rapists wouldn t even consider doing such a thing. In our society, the victim of sexual assault is consistently made out to be at least partially at fault. Darn near every piece of prevention literature is focused on things the victim should avoid doing/wearing/saying or places to avoid being. Very little of it says hey, you don t have the right to have sex with someone just because you want it. It should not matter, and should be treated as utterly irrelevant, if the victim of a was wearing something slinky or if they were flirtatious or if they have had more than one lover in their yet these are often the first things discussed. No, sadly, we really do have a society that focuses heavily on the victim-blaming rather than laying the full amount of blame where it needs to be.
When he woke me up and wanted to rant about politics, he got snarky when I said I didn 8767 t want to talk politics late at night. It 8767 s stressful and keeps me awake for hours after he stops. When I pointed that out to him, he complained that I 8775 never want to hear his opinions on politics. 8776 I said, 8775 as long as I am not trying to sleep, and you don 8767 t say anything violent, mean, or disrespectful, I am fine with discussing politics. If you can 8767 t abide by those restrictions, I am uncomfortable talking with you about it. 8776
After the apocalypse we shall band together in small groups and hunt the feral radioactive cattle that wander the landscape. We shall entice a male or two for breeding and to protect the group. When stronger males come to battle our males we shall watch uncaring as they fight to the death. What care we? We shall have our Our daughters will stay by our sides, our sons we shall drive off when they are of age. You think this unfair? Their own fathers will do it for us.
There doesn 8767 t really seem to be an equivalent group of middle-class, non-religious conservative women, especially not of the alt right strain. As you point out, it doesn 8767 t really seem to offer a lot to women. It seems like it often veers toward hostile sexism rather than benevolent sexism, and while some women like the second sort, not many enjoy the first. It also seems like a key attraction for men is railing against political correctness. I know some women who could get on board with that, but I don 8767 t know that many who 8767 d find it so appealing it would be the main attraction.
Well one Republican co worker likes to hit me over the head with the 8775 fact 8776 that more than 55%white women voted for Trump so there fore I am wrong to not have voted for him. (I use the term fact as he can 8767 t seem to grasp the fact that 55% of Americans didn 8767 t vote which would mean it 8767 s more like 75% of white women didn 8767 t actually vote for Trump). would indicate to me they think they have the majority of women they 8767 d find acceptable to sleep with anyway. (ie white) So why do they care that the rest of us don 8767 t want a damn thing to do with them. Oh wait reality & Republican math don 8767 t add up...yet again.
I am kinky, so I am aware a lot of men have desires they see as socially unacceptable. We don 8767 t generally discuss it on the first date, unless we met through a kink-related OLD site or event. In over 75 years, I have *never* engaged in kinky play with someone (whether a one-off casual playpartner or a serious boyfriend) who has shamed me for being kinky. It 8767 s possible some said nasty things behind my back to others, but I doubt it.